1- What valid lessons about life, society, or humanity did you learn from the story of The Crucible?
2- Be sure to reveal how you came to such a conclusion, that is, what incident, or what character and actions taught you this?
You get an extra point for having an original theme/ lesson- one no one else has posted! Be sure to back it up or it isn't a credible theme until you do so and someone else can take credit for it otherwise!!
Every time I watch this play, even as an adult, I must conclude that it has taught me that even adults, whom so many children have been raised up to believe are perfect int heir manners and life decisions, ARE FLAWED and CAN BE VERY FOOLISH and NAIVE!.
ReplyDeleteit was the simple fact that one silly girl's passive retaliation of not waking, was nothing more than that, but the adults in the village were the ones who seriously created mass hysteria!
I think some people look too far into things for meaning, when it's just a simple occurrence. I know it's part of human nature, but it tends to always lead to other actions just as it did in the Crucible. The end result, which is not always pretty, can be easily avoided in situations, such as this, from the start.
DeleteSo what could have been "avoided" since it seems you have either learned or been reminded of a situation that the plot has brought to your attention.
DeleteThe older people now always say that kids these days are so bad. I hate when people say this because kids now are no different then they were back then. In fact kids might be better now then then.
DeleteIf John Proctor had never have had any affair with Abigail, she would of not fell in love with John Proctor. Furthermore, Abigail would of not went into the woods with Tituba and tried to "murder" Elizabeth Proctor with the idea of spiritual guidance or to the village people, witchcraft!
DeleteWatching this play it has shown me that even adults make very idiotic decisions like a teen or child does. No matter what age you become you still make stupid decision. Instead of believing the people that have common sense, we have trouble listening to them, we do the opposite of what is said and believe the wrong people. Adults, teens, and children all have done wrong by myself or by others.
ReplyDeleteAll these things I have mentioned have been shown throughout the play. Like when Reverend Parris believed his niece and daughter knowing that they lied about plenty of things instead of saving many lives. All of those that were hung had common sense and were not listened to. Not only did Reverend Parris go alone with those lies many others in the town believed those idiotic girls. Which have shown that not just as childern we don't listen to the ones with common sense but even as adults we do not.
I agree with what you're saying. It's sickening that Abigail and the others started believing their own lies to the point that it corrupted them and corrupted the town. Even Parris, whom is supposed to be a reverend, lies and goes along with these things to save his name.
DeleteI like what u say everyone make idiotic decisions they would have just stopped as soon as there were going to be killed. The Reverend didnt even wanna tell the truth seen he was going to be the one that was going to look bad and at the end everyone notice abigail was just lied because she ended running away
DeleteExactly if you are a reverend the truth is supposed to be part of your life not lies to do with the devil. He himself had wronged his name by going alone with those lies of idiotic girls.
DeleteThere are many life lessons that can be taught from the reading of this play. This play has taught me that even the "mature" adults can be just as childish as high school students or even elementary school students. This story has also taught me to be a leader and not a follower. All of these people who were in this play followed the fact of witchcraft and not the fact of reality. They just wanted to believe in what other people believed in, instead of thinking for themselves. The fact that everyone thought Betty was bewitched was enough to make everyone in that village go insane.
ReplyDeleteTEAM "NURSE" I take it, then!!
DeleteThe valid lesson I learned from the story the Crucible is to not cheat. If you’re in a relationship especially married it affects not just you but a lot of people around you. Not only did the affair between Abigal and John affect his wife but also affected the people in the village. As a Christian it’s not right to cheat, yet john did and he knows it was a mistake. His wife and john’s marriage was never the same after the affair. I learned that cheating in a relationship isn’t right because it does hurt a lot of people weather you think it will or not.
ReplyDeleteWhat I have learned from reading The Crucible about humanity is that just because a person goes to church and spreads the word of god doesn't necessarily mean that this person is Christian. A person maybe choosing to go to church to have it as a cover up of all the wrong things they do or have done in life.
ReplyDeleteI came to this conclusion because in the play Abigail was a great example of this, she showed the people that she was a good Christian girl, but in reality she wasn't. The people in the village had to follow ten commandments and one of those was Thou shall not commit adultery, Abigail and John Proctor committed adultery and kept it a secret this proves that even though a person may go to church it doesn't mean that they are as Christian as they prove to be.
And yet, John himself seemed to be the only one who didn't think he deserved to go to church anymore and couldn't even say his "adultery" commandment or.. what else proved that he was righteous.. what else proved he felt he wasn't a deserving" Christian"? ANYONE???
DeleteYes, Abigail is a good example of that, but just because her and John committed adultery doesn't mean that they are not Christian. It just proves Abigail just wants her way in life and wants everyone to do right by her and that's all. It proves that John just mad a mistake in his life but truly love his wife.
DeleteI agree K. Vazquez. I know some people who act up all week and hurt people. They go to church every sunday. They think that just because they go to church, they are a "good" person. They are only good for that church sunday, but the rest of the week they act like they just did before they ever entered that church. Abigail is one of those girls. She is portrayed as the "good" girl to have around, but really she went behind everyones back and she had an affair with John Proctor. She still had the affair, but its the fact that she doesn't even feel bad about it! All she wants is Elizabeth Proctor gone! She wants John more than anything
DeleteJohn and Abigail are hypocrites for committing adultery. Being faithful to the church and his wife are promises that are supposed to be made to keep himself "pure" for God. Abigail committed more of a sin being a young girl and gaining so much power furthermore corrupting the town and the reverends who are also supposed to be men of god. They're all hypocrites.
Delete@ E.Bermdez:Committing adultery wasn't the only thing that Abigail did to show that she wasn't Christian she made the whole village think that she saw the devil and that she saw innocent people with the devil, that is not being Christian at all in my opinion and John Knew exactly what he was getting in to he had a choice he could have said no but that's my opinion .
Delete@ M.Hodges: I totally agree with that I also know people like that to they do bad things then they go to church on Sunday and act like "good" people but once they are out of church they go back to the way they were. Abigail did portray this by threatening the girls if they said anything about what happened and by saying she saw innocent people with the devil, she let her feeling over John take over her and she made the wrong decision.
@S.Jefferies: I agree with what you said they are both hypocrites talking about church and going to church making themselves seem like they are good people but then they sin and do bad things.
@K.Vazquez: Well yea of course but that doesn't mean that John isn't a christian. Everyone does something that they regret, but Abigail on the other isn't much of a christian because she did a very hypocritical thing. Everyone does something they might regret everyone is different.
Delete@ E.Bermdez I agree with that cause even thought they both did a non Christian thing they both handled it a different way John knew what he did was wrong and he couldn't forgive himself even when his wife forgave him Abigail on the other hand just was wrong she hurt a lot of people and because she wanted John so bad a lot of people died because of her actions.
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ReplyDeleteOne theme in the play Crucible by Arthur Miller is the gullibility of humanity. Another work with a similar theme is “Wizard’s First Rule” by Terry Goodkind. In both, people are so afraid that something might be true, that they believe that it is true. In Goodkind’s work, the wizards had rules describing human behavior, and the first was that “People are Stupid, and since they are stupid, they will believe things if they want it to be true, or if they are afraid it might be”(Goodkind). An example of this principle in the Crucible is when Abigail threatened the other children with witchcraft if they told what she had done, and they believed it because they were afraid that it was true. Also, Abigail tried to use magic to kill Elizabeth Proctor, and believed that it would work because she wanted it to be true. This all proves that people are gullible, and not very good at telling truth from lies.
I came to the conclusion that this was the message from Miller because I was already familiar with the theme, and recognized it when it came again. The incident where Abigail threatened the other girls with witchcraft was the moment that I first put the pieces together. Then, the story continually repeated it, for example the judges wanting an “honest confession” from Proctor to something he had not done. They had deceived themselves to the truth, since they wanted it to be true to save their reputations. Also, when Abigail thought that she still had a chance with John, she deceived herself because she wanted it to be true. Did any of you notice this theme?
I totally agree with you. I found this theme to be extensively overused in the Play, but do you have any thoughts on why this is true?
DeleteWhat this play has taught me about society and life is that people would do absolutely anything to get away with what they want, even if their actions will get someone else in trouble; and it also taught me how easy can people be manipulated. For example,Abigail Williams accused everyone that was on her of way of witchery just because she wanted to be with John Proctor. She was definitely the reason why the whole town was in hysteria. Once she realized that her actions were going to bring her a certain punishment, she decided to bring down everyone that was with her. Even though Abby didn't get with John Proctor like she wanted to, we can still say that she got away with everything just because every one believed her horrible lies.
ReplyDeleteI believe in god and I'm a christian, but the way they acted throughout this play was not very holy. This play taught me that with too much power, it could destroy even the most faithful people. Everyone claimed to be a christian in that play...but between the girls lying to save themselves and abby trying to kill johns wife. The court was willing to believe anything. This play also showed me how naive people can be. They believed that all those innocent people were bewitched without solid facts or evidence. True Christians would have held a fair trial.
ReplyDeleteThis is so true Abigail had way to much power over the court because they believed everything her and the girls say
DeleteThat is true. Instead of being humble and merciful (like good Christians) they eagerly sat on their pulpits and condemned people without a lick of evidence against them. Greedy backstabbers like the Putnams even accused people, like the elderly man, knowing that they could get killed, all so they could get their land. The people of Salem do not sound like true Christians to me.
DeleteThe lesson I absorbed from The Crucible is that all people are evil and that some people choose to manifest it. The manifestation can be initiated at any time, mostly triggered by certain events in which the reparations will be large. “The Salem Witch Trials” as a whole exposed this to me. One way I extruded my conclusion was how, starting with Abigail, the people of Salem started to turn on each other and exempt themselves from compensation while putting others on the block. It all started with dancing in the woods and Abigail drinking blood, this perpetuated by the evil manifested in Abby by the threat of being exposed, Summated with the hanging of all those who were put to the block and refuted that with which they were charged. This represents that, while normally most people are good upstanding citizens, put a little bit of pressure on them, and evil will manifest itself within the individual. Once manifested, evil assumes control of it’s victim and uses them as a conduit with which to torment those who have not fallen prey to it. Another way I derived this was the way that everyone was so willing to follow Abby’s example and throw some one else on the block as soon as they even seemed to be affected.
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DeleteThe lesson that I pulled out of The Crucible is if a man is put in a complex situation and has nowhere to turn because everyone around him had turned psychotic, the only way to deal with it is to crumble to it in order to save himself, but at the same time try to keep his dignity.
ReplyDeleteWhen John was given the chance to confess to witchery he did so that he and his wife might live. After signing the paper he, said “LEAVE ME MY NAME!!” He says this because they were going to post his name up on the church for all to see and did not want to be disgraced by his friends. Since almost everyone around him was drawn into this conspiracy of witchcraft, he had no one to go to, nowhere to go. In all of this madness, he withered to the will of the court to sign his reputation, friends, and family away.
I do not completely agree with you because there are more choices in a situation even as complex as when a man “has nowhere to turn because everyone around him had turned psychotic”. Yes one way to deal with that situation is to “crumble to it in order to save himself” but there are others. For example John could have swallowed his pride and let his family be together. On the other hand the more honorable choice would have been the one of people like Rebecca Nurse, Sarah Good, etc., also my favorite Giles Corey who never gave up his free will when he requested "More Weight!" which were powerful words in the hands of a self empowered man. John could have followed their examples in the first place and not have given the accusers even a little hope of victory. Either way what I'm trying to say is that there is always another choice.
DeleteI would do the same thing I would not my name to be known of any thing bad. also his kids would be looked at differently and be a outcast.
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Delete- What valid lessons about life, society, or humanity did you learn from the story of The Crucible?
ReplyDeleteThe lesson I learn from the story the crucible that if you want to live you have to lie sometimes but lies can make you miserable for the rest of your life. That’s really what I’ve learned there’s nothing that teaches me cause of not being able to under stand.
Very true but don't lie a lot.
DeleteI do not understand what your last line was trying to say. Can you clarify what it means?
DeleteOne theme from the crucible that stood out above most was a lesson about humanity. For humans it has always been instinct to destroy things we don’t understand without giving it a chance or trying to understand it. In the story the source of everything that happened was this same powerful force that has been around for ages. It is the fear of the unknown, a force that has controlled, and destroyed thousands of lives. The people of salem were no different and as subjects of the church of england they were taught to fear the devil or anything that wasn’t familiar from the start. So when they heard of anything out of the ordinary, for instance the dancing in the woods, the town’s people first reacted with fear. That fear was then used as a weapon after the whole town went into panic mode. They didn’t know any better and because of the fear that was pushed into them the majority believed the dogma against so called “witches” to where they thought hanging those innocent people was the right thing to do. Only the wise people like Rebecca Nurse, John proctor,and a select few didn’t believe everything they're told. They weren't defying authority but questioning it. Sadly since they were different they were hung for it because of the fear of the unknown. This is still a part of human characteristics; people need to question authority because sometimes authority isn't always right, but it’s hard for people to do that if they are still feared for their differences. Arthur Miller knew about this and witnessed it during the red scare, and more recently the fear is terrorism. As one can see the fear of the unknown hasn't and won't go away and due to that Miller's theme is still valid.
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